I see. There exists the possibility that I may restrict my intake to just water. Do not see this as an offense. The chief purpose of our meeting up will be conversation.
That he should come here and be seen as human... after so long on the Enterprise, where he was seen as anything but. Even on Vulcan, a planet where he was too "of Earth" to belong, there was Michael and his mother to remind him he didn't belong in that classification either.
Logically, he should feel nothing about Kaladin's words, which is a good way for him to get out of analyzing how he definitely does feel. ]
I have been keeping myself open to the possibility of acquiring some spices, should they be reasonably priced. I will prioritize this. [ Since you're also suffering, this cannot stand. ]
To name Vulcan dishes would be a pointless exercise. Instead I will say that we do not eat meat, nor do we eat the product of any sentient creature. Here, that limits my options.
As with most things, there are similarities and there are differences.
In terms of the physical, the average temperature of Vulcan is over thirty degrees Celsius above the average temperature of Earth, and the arrangement of the cities is far more orderly and based upon a strict aesthetic ideal.
Culturally, however, Vulcans place an emphasis on homogeneity and on service, while humanity champions individualism and personal gratification.
Which do you believe more closely resembles your world?
Thirty degrees hotter would be far too hot for me You on the other hand must be storming freezing
( how are you not in a giant parka rn idk )
Your question is one I'm unable to answer in so few words Most of Roshar wouldn't want a man like me speaking for them as I'm not a geographer or a historian But I wouldn't consider us homogenous nor would I say we're all so very different My country however is a religious society built entirely of strict divides
Despite that I think it may be closer to a combination of the two
Is every Vulcan in service as a scientist if you're all alike
In my travels and interactions with others I have found that it is too hot for most.
[ Yes. Yes, I am freezing, thank you for noticing. I was cold yesterday, I'm cold today, I'll be COLD TOMORROW. ]
You discount your credentials but here you are thus far the primary expert on Roshar. It may remain that way for some time. I would hear you speak of it more often and in greater detail, in particular the religion that guides your people.
As for Vulcan, science is prized highly but it is not the most common profession. Instead, most Vulcans at some point in their lives serve in the political sphere, in public office. This is to encourage engagement with societal betterment.
You ask the questions you're curious to hear the answers to Then I'll tell you exactly what I think about it We have strict traditions that don't align particularly well with my personal beliefs
Did you at some point in your life serve in the political sphere I understand the need but it doesn't sound very easy Politicians and people in authority have a tendency to lie through their teeth
As of yet I have not, though I have been a Vulcan representative within a human-dominated organization in an unofficial capacity. One day I will perhaps do more. My planet benefits from the involvement of its people, but that does not mean we should turn a blind eye to others in need.
You spoke of divides within your culture. On what basis are these divides established?
( kaladin listens to spock describe a racial imbalance in his organization. the first question that come to mind is presumptuous, one that'd cage spock in with one of his minority comradesβrlain wanted him to listen, not to assume.
so, that is what he does now. tries to, at least. )
You have brown eyes Spock Dark brown You'd be a lower-class citizen in Alethkar The divides are established on any basis that further raises one half of the population higher than the other
I'm came to find myself in a representative position like you A bridge between extremes
[ Though by Kaladin's own estimation, arbitrary. A position no doubt more easily assumed by a member of the discriminated population but he has seen the marginalized representatives of other species struggle to come to the same sense of self that Kaladin already seems to possess. ]
Such a difference would be considered without meaning in my culture, though you must have already ascertained as much. [ Which might as well be Spock for "what are the odds". ]
"Struggle" has variable definitions. I often face internal and external conflicts and the opportunities to address them. Some are more easily reconciled than others, and in some it is difficult to find a lesson. [ That can be the hardest part. Desperate to find meaning in his challenges, and being left with nothing but the challenge itself. ]
Earth and Roshar may have humans but we are only alike in attitude
( it's been hard to talk to everyone. lighteyes, darkeyes, women, men... all of the segregation he knew has become totally obsolete. subjects of conversation are complicated for him, too, because what they talk about is alien to him. he's expected to be someone he's not, and if they find out he or his opinions are different, they try to force him to be the sameβsquare peg, square hole.
spock must understand... or is he forcing him to be the same, too?
kaladin scowls in thought, bringing his hand up to rub at his chin. )
It's exhausting
Do you ever want to stop trying You don't seem like the type but it must be hard to be the model Vulcan I don't think anyone is fit for that duty
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I see. There exists the possibility that I may restrict my intake to just water. Do not see this as an offense. The chief purpose of our meeting up will be conversation.
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I don't see it as an offence but the cooks might
You can't eat water
If you skip this meal will you have something in the morning
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If you are experiencing concern, it is not warranted. I also ate yesterday.
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If you say you're good to go then alright
( ... )
If you're talking about ice it's not the same thing
1/2
2/2
Do you think I am starving?
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I don't think you're starving
You might be soon if you drink instead of eat
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Should I assume that that is also the case for you, or have you been able to eat everything here without facing difficulty?
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Planets and people really do come in all shapes and sizes
It was too easy to think of you as human
I'll remember Spock
As for me I'm fine
Tough on digestion maybe but this artificial food tastes better than what's provided to our armies
It's bland as damnation though
What is it you people eat
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That he should come here and be seen as human... after so long on the Enterprise, where he was seen as anything but. Even on Vulcan, a planet where he was too "of Earth" to belong, there was Michael and his mother to remind him he didn't belong in that classification either.
Logically, he should feel nothing about Kaladin's words, which is a good way for him to get out of analyzing how he definitely does feel. ]
I have been keeping myself open to the possibility of acquiring some spices, should they be reasonably priced. I will prioritize this. [ Since you're also suffering, this cannot stand. ]
To name Vulcan dishes would be a pointless exercise. Instead I will say that we do not eat meat, nor do we eat the product of any sentient creature. Here, that limits my options.
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Count me in
I don't mind the expense and it beats having the sweeter stuff
You helped out with the hotel bill too
Is it still a problem if it's artificial meat
More the idea of it than the actual consumption
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[ Now, about my ugly roomβ ]
You are curious about Vulcan culture? Or still concerned that I will become weak and unable to function here.
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( about everything ever all of the time )
But I want to hear about Vulcans too
Will you answer my questions
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I cannot say what I will and will not tell you until I have read the questions themselves.
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How about this
What kind of world is Vulcan
Is it like Earth
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In terms of the physical, the average temperature of Vulcan is over thirty degrees Celsius above the average temperature of Earth, and the arrangement of the cities is far more orderly and based upon a strict aesthetic ideal.
Culturally, however, Vulcans place an emphasis on homogeneity and on service, while humanity champions individualism and personal gratification.
Which do you believe more closely resembles your world?
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You on the other hand must be storming freezing
( how are you not in a giant parka rn idk )
Your question is one I'm unable to answer in so few words
Most of Roshar wouldn't want a man like me speaking for them as I'm not a geographer or a historian
But I wouldn't consider us homogenous nor would I say we're all so very different
My country however is a religious society built entirely of strict divides
Despite that I think it may be closer to a combination of the two
Is every Vulcan in service as a scientist if you're all alike
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[ Yes. Yes, I am freezing, thank you for noticing. I was cold yesterday, I'm cold today, I'll be COLD TOMORROW. ]
You discount your credentials but here you are thus far the primary expert on Roshar. It may remain that way for some time. I would hear you speak of it more often and in greater detail, in particular the religion that guides your people.
As for Vulcan, science is prized highly but it is not the most common profession. Instead, most Vulcans at some point in their lives serve in the political sphere, in public office. This is to encourage engagement with societal betterment.
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You ask the questions you're curious to hear the answers to
Then I'll tell you exactly what I think about it
We have strict traditions that don't align particularly well with my personal beliefs
Did you at some point in your life serve in the political sphere
I understand the need but it doesn't sound very easy
Politicians and people in authority have a tendency to lie through their teeth
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You spoke of divides within your culture. On what basis are these divides established?
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so, that is what he does now. tries to, at least. )
You have brown eyes Spock
Dark brown
You'd be a lower-class citizen in Alethkar
The divides are established on any basis that further raises one half of the population higher than the other
I'm came to find myself in a representative position like you
A bridge between extremes
Do you struggle in your role
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[ Though by Kaladin's own estimation, arbitrary. A position no doubt more easily assumed by a member of the discriminated population but he has seen the marginalized representatives of other species struggle to come to the same sense of self that Kaladin already seems to possess. ]
Such a difference would be considered without meaning in my culture, though you must have already ascertained as much. [ Which might as well be Spock for "what are the odds". ]
"Struggle" has variable definitions. I often face internal and external conflicts and the opportunities to address them. Some are more easily reconciled than others, and in some it is difficult to find a lesson. [ That can be the hardest part. Desperate to find meaning in his challenges, and being left with nothing but the challenge itself. ]
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( it's been hard to talk to everyone. lighteyes, darkeyes, women, men... all of the segregation he knew has become totally obsolete. subjects of conversation are complicated for him, too, because what they talk about is alien to him. he's expected to be someone he's not, and if they find out he or his opinions are different, they try to force him to be the sameβsquare peg, square hole.
spock must understand... or is he forcing him to be the same, too?
kaladin scowls in thought, bringing his hand up to rub at his chin. )
It's exhausting
Do you ever want to stop trying
You don't seem like the type but it must be hard to be the model Vulcan
I don't think anyone is fit for that duty